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23 Şubat 2016 Salı

HARUT SASSOUNIAN … HALF - BAKED IN THE OVENS OF SCIENTIFIC METHODOLOGY

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Harut Sassounian had published several articles in various Armenian publication outlets early February discussing the same old theme with minor variations among them.

The subject is the personal interview which is claimed to be granted to Aubrey Herbert in 1921 by Talaat Pasha just before he was assassinated.  According to Sassounian, Talaat  Pasha had agreed with the Genocide Accusations, etcetc..

For the archive-based researchers, the references given and commentary outlined in the Sassounian articles regarding Talaat Pasha are full of contradictions.

Mr. Sadi Dinlenc, an activist on the subject, had written a rather innocent article criticizing the contradictions in the Sassounian article which was published on February 9, 2016, in his California Courier newspaper. Mr. Dinlencs criticism was  based on the credible Armenian as well as the Western resources and references on the subject.

The interesting part of this reciprocating correspondence is not the Sadi Dinlencs archival references or Sassounians select wording he used in his articles.  The affinity of the Turks about the articles and the propaganda material written in the Western media outlets using select and specific information about themselves goes back several decades.

This is not the point.

The entertaining and interesting part of the subject starts with the appearance of Sadi Dinlencs response in the Facebook pages of the Armenian Genocide Resources Center where Sassounian was informed that he could respond to Dinlenc article in his own Facebook pages. Not wishing to waste a chance, Sassounian declared :

I usually dont dignify genocide denialists with a comment. I did make an exception in the case of Dinlenc and shamed him for lying about the Armenian Genocide which was acknowledged even by Atatürk.



Upon reading this response in Sassounians own Facebook page, I decided to get into the picture, by telling him that it is important for both Turks and the Armenians to learn the truth and that nobody is after any unfair recognition or moral benefit and did ask him to whom did Atatürk admit about the genocide, when and where.  And I kindly expected Sassounian to tell me the source of this knowledge, concerned that either someone was not telling the Turks the truth or  someone was lying to the Armenians on the same subject.


I have read quite a bit about 10 years ago about the research done on the alleged Emile Hildegrand interview
Los Angeles Examiner
1 August 1926
with Atat
ürk, published in the Los Angeles Examiner. So, I expected and hoped that Sassounian, who has been writing so strongly in his own newspaper as well as his own Facebook pages about Talaat Pasha and Atatürk, making impressive statements with comprehensive accusations, frankly, I thought I would benefit from him.

But, soon, I realized that Sassounian had a very limited information about the interview that appeared in his Facebook pages and that he was not even aware of the book written by Prof. Dr. Türkkaya Ataöv, containing the in-depth research of that particular interview.

When reminded about Ataövs book, Sassounian claimed that Ataöv, too, was a denialist similar to Sadi Dinlenc and that his research was comical and suggested that I should not help him gain recognition by dropping his name around.

Ataöv Research about Emile Hildebrand

Ataöv Reserach about Emile Hilderbrand
Türkkaya Ataöv researched in depth the Atatürk interview with the Swiss artist and reporter Emile Hildegrand, published on Aug. 1st, 1926 in Los Angeles Examiner newspaper of the Armenian publisher Nersessian,  He contacted the Swiss Embassy and corresponded with the Hildegrand family in Switzerland, finding out that there was in fact no newspaper reporter by the name of Emile Hildegrand during those years, that there was no departure from Switzerland of someone with name and finally learned from the Turkish archives  that there was no newspaper reporter with that name visiting Turkey at that time. A non-existent artist and newspaper reporter, left his non-existent country to travel to a country he never went to conduct an interview which he never did with Atatürk whom he never saw and claimed that Atatürk told him CUP leaders allowed mass-killing of Christians which Atatürk never did.


When all of these details were reminded, Sassounian made such non-congruous claims as You (me) were not there at the Embassy when Ataöv made the research, and that Ataöv did not speak the German language and that I should rely only on large U.S. newspapers and that if I do not trust big newspapers and believe Ataöv instead, it would render me senseless and illogical.

The answer I delivered to these strange claims and accusations might have driven Sassounian and types like him wild.

Sassounian, not only has not opened the cover of Ataövs subject book, he is also unaware of the common knowledge that in addition to German language, French is also spoken widely in Switzerland.   Not only that, Ataöv has published in his subject book the letters he wrote and received in French language to and from the Swiss Embassy.  Equally strange and comical is his demand for believability that I was not there next to him when Ataöv was conducting his research.  I was not next to Einstein when he declared his famous Theory of Relativity or  I was not under the same apple tree when an apple fell off the tree branch giving Newton the idea of Law of Gravity. Does Sassounian know any mathematician who was next to Pythagoras when he found out the Theory of Pythagoras ?

His particular advice that I should trust big American newspapers is really heartbreaking.

What and how much news does he know related with Armenians published in the big  American papers ?.


In all these conversations I conducted with Sassounian in Facebook pages, the important thing was not whether Talaat Pashas Atatürk claim was true or not. The importance here was a being methodical researcher. Anyone who is acting as a role model and informing the public-at-large by writing essays and articles and giving conferences in the very debatable subject of Armenian genocide claims must, before anything else, have a sense and obligation of moral responsibility.   It is a moral inferiority to claim that Armenian people will have a better and healthy future based on the information fed by improper methodologies. This is true for any nation, including the Turks.

A hundred years ago, killing people was the way to go in order to gain material or moral victory. Today, it is killing the minds.

Here we go Harut SassounianThe biggest American newspaper
New York Times, August 04, 1907
http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2007/10/2020-evolution-of-armenian-hunchakist.html
Evolution Of The Armenian Hunchakist; Secret Society, Starting in Caucasus Mountains, Said to Bear Close Resemblance to Mafia or Black Hand. Crimes Recently Committed in This Country by an Organization Originally Founded by Patriots. Secret Society in America. The Demand for Money. Paying Toll to Hunchakist.
THE mild-mannered quiet-spoken Armenian has suddenly been thrust into an unwelcomed publicity. He forms such a small unit in the racial patchwork that makes up the population of this big city that his existence is easily overlooked. . .

Everyone is a denialist !
Everyone is a denialist !

Dear Sassounian !

Full screenshot from Harut Sassounian's Facebook Page!

13 Ağustos 2011 Cumartesi

Armenian Genocide Resources Center And 6 Year

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The blog of Armenian Genocide Resource Center is celebrating its 6th anniversary. I thought about the meaning of this anniversary and assessed whether having reached the 6th year of this blog was something that we should madly be happy about. I seriously looked for an answer to this question in my mind but since I have not thought about this issue before I could not come up with an immediate answer. Then I realized that although giving an answer to this question seemed easy at first, philosophically it was not that easy. The reason for this was the fact that this blog included a significant work based on archiving and so its nature was quite important.




The answer to my question would be very easy if the creators of this blog, Murat, Seda & Lara, would only try to prove or disprove the so called genocide with only a few visual aids and some baseless documents. However this blog they prepared indeed had a very different nature. The sort of significant effort and work to prepare such a blog was making it difficult for me to answer how enthusiastically we should be celebrating the 6th anniversary of this blog. Under normal circumstances, having reached the 6th year of this blog would be very pleasing. However this blog:
not only proved that the statements that were allegedly indicated belonging to Hitler & Mustafa Kemal were indeed fake or demonstrated that the visual aids used by the proponents of the so called genocide were indeed forgeries, but also was successful in revealing reports like Warangian or Niles-Sutherland Reports or books like Patriotism Perverted and many historical newspaper archives and many other comments and thoughts.

Should all these hundreds of documents, books or archival materials that were brought together with such great effort be only published in this blog? Should the function of this blog be this, to be the only source for many people to have access to these many documents and historical information?

The time between years 1915 and 2005 (when this blog was founded) is 90 years. All these years, all those historcial newspaper archives, historical information and documents or reports were always there. Why haven’t the Zorian Institute publish for instance Warangian Report during all those years? Why aren’t the Clark University or Universities of Minnesota or California publishing Niles-Sutherland Report? Why can’t CNN, MSNBC, ABC or BBC broadcast a documentary film about the alleged statements of Hitler? Or why can’t the Turkish History Institution gather the historical newpaper archives in US and publish them?

According to the criteria of the Age of Enlightenment which had taken us out of the Dark Ages and led us to science and justice, all these topics should have been the primary subject-matter of the scientific institutions and not of some internet blog writers. If today the data published by this blog which provides all information in detail with even archival numbers can not be challenged by any historians or can not be proven to be fake or forgery, aren’t we then having a very serious ethical problem and not just for Armenians or Turks but for the whole wide world? The meaning of the term ETOCIDE is probably defined by this question.

Is only some part of the world population being threatened by the fact that politicians, populists and some lazy and selfish parties violate the concepts of enlightenment and modernism like justice, objectivity and peace?

I am asking very serious questions about the work of Murat, Seda & Lara in honour of the 6th anniversary of this blog. I am reminding of those who constantly babble about love, peace and justice that only the ones who are well informed in an objective fashion can be peaceful, just and affectionate.

Murat, Lara & Seda, you are one of a kind and I am so glad we have you...

20 Nisan 2009 Pazartesi

Fake Illustrations Used In Armenian Genocide Allegations

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Aram Hamparian




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[Russian Painter Vasily Vasilyevich Vereshchagin Paint : 
The Apotheosis Of War - 1871]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Vereshchagin







Armenians use several fake pics in several unofficial sites to back up their accusations of so called genocide and this way not only they twist and bend realities but also appeal to people's emotions to make them join their unlawful cause.

(Ermeniler, sözde soykırım iddialarını desteklemek için birçok resmi olmayan sitede çok sayıda sahte resim kullanmakta ve bu sayede sadece gerçekleri çarpıtmakla kalmayıp haksız davalarına duygu sömürüsü yoluyla katılımı arttırmaktadırlar.)


Fake Picture No:1
A woman who had been slaughtered by Turks ?





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This picture indeed belongs to a Jewish woman slaughtered by Nazi Arrow Cross Men Party during WW2 in Hungary. This is an official historical evidence of Holocaust but Armenians nonetheless use this picture to deceive people and show it as an Armenian woman slaughtered by Turks with a shameful act.

(Bu fotoğraf , İkinci Dünya Savaşı'nda Macaristan'da Nazi Arrow Cross Men Partisi tarafından katledilen Jahudi kadına aittir.
Holocaust'un tarihi belgesi olarak kayıtlara girmiştir.Ermeniler tarafından utanmasızca ''Türklerin katlettiği Ermeni Kadın''
olarak gösterilmektedir..)


Fake Picture No: 2
Heads decapitated by Turks ?


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This picture indeed belongs to White Rose activitists who fought against Nazis in Germany during WW2. These activists were sentenced to death and then killed via guillotine by Nazi Germany.


(Bu fotoğraf İkinici Dünya Savaşı esnasında Almanya'da Nazilere Karşı savaşan White Rose hareketi üyelerine aittir. Nazi Almanyası tarafından giyotinle Başları kesilerek idam edilmişlerdir.)

Cheap populism from Pamela Geller Blog [ Atlas Shrugs.com ]
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/03/muslim-turkey-promises-another-armenian-genocide-if-you-speak-of-the-fiirst-aremenian-genocide-prime.html


Pamela Geller




Fake Picture No: 3
Armenian women and children slaughtered by Turks ?


Armenian Genocide

  [Falsified Background Image of Propaganda Poster of Armenian National Committee of America]
 Facebook Link :


Armenian Genocide



Fake Poster Background Image in Offıcial Anca Website
Link :


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These women and children in the picture are indeed Turkish women and children slaughtered by Armenians in Subatan (in Ottoman Empire) on 25 April 1918. The picture is being copied by Armenians in internet and is presented as a picture of Armenian victims.

armenian genocide
[Original photo is in Turkish Atase Archive]

(Bu fotoğrafta gösterilen kadın ve çocuklar , 25 Nisan 1918 de Türkiye Subatan'da Ermeniler tarafından katledilmiş Türk çocuklarıdır. Bu fotoğrafın orjinali Türk arşivlerindedir. Ermeniler tarafından internet üzerinden kopyalanarak ''Ermeni Kurbanlar'' gibi gösterilmektedir.)

Fake Picture No: 4
Women and children slaughtered by Turks ?


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These women and children in the picture are indeed Turkish women and children slaughtered by Armenians in Erzincan Vagarir (in Ottoman Empire) on 16 February 1918. The original copy of the picture is in Turkish archives.




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(Bu fotoğraf , 16 Şubat 1918'de Turkiye Erzincan'da Vagarir ilçesinde Ermeniler tarafından katledilen Türklere aittir. Bu fotoğrafın orjinali Türk arşivlerindedir.)

Fake Picture No: 5
Armenians slaughtered by Ottoman soldiers


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The uniforms of the soldiers in the pic belong to Russian soldiers fighting in Russian Civil War after WW1 and not to Ottoman soldiers. This pic is not related to either Ottomans or Armenians.



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                                               Original printing of distorted photograph!

 
(Bu fotoğrafta gösterilen askerlerin üniformaları osmanlı askerlerine değil, 1. Dünya Savaşı sonrası Rus İç savaşındaki Rus askerlerine aittir. Bu fotoğrafın ne Türklerle ne de Ermenilerle bir ilişkisi yoktur.)

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